Not that I am planning to join the military (I am too old and too smart), but I am pleased that Obama has repealed a law that ultimately denied gays and lesbians the same freedom of expression, afforded to so-called straight soldiers.
Obama:
“We must continually renew this promise. My Administration has a Civil Rights Division that is once again prosecuting civil rights violations and employment discrimination. We finally strengthened our laws to protect against crimes driven by hate. This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are. We are going to crack down on violations of equal pay laws – so that women get equal pay for an equal day’s work. And we should continue the work of fixing our broken immigration system – to secure our borders, enforce our laws, and ensure that everyone who plays by the rules can contribute to our economy and enrich our nations.”
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Thanks to Obama's pro-fag policy change, now they'll have to start issuing soap-on-a-rope in all of the boot camps. The carpet munchers will be able to stalk all the fresh beaver they want with impunity now too.
DOn't count on it. It needs to pass the senate and they don't like it.
What exactly is the issue? If you are gay, its no one business. Does repealing this mean you get to be flamboyant and start fucking in the barracks?
"DOn't count on it. It needs to pass the senate and they don't like it.
What exactly is the issue? If you are gay, its no one business. Does repealing this mean you get to be flamboyant and start fucking in the barracks"
I may be wasting my time, but here is the point:
Gays should be able to openly serve in the military. That means we shouldn't have to sneak and make phone calls to our partners back home, or hide our partner's picture under a mattress. We should have the right to be ourselves like so-called straight people have a right to be themselves. That is the point.
Being openly gay in the military would do nothing but fuck up everything discipline and morale wise. Civilians like president chimpface will never understand this. Marines, soldiers, airmen, and sailors need to be healthy and normal human beings, and nothing like the unbalanced sorry rejects that are on shows like Queer Eye and Will & Grace.
Gays should be able to openly serve in the military. That means we shouldn't have to sneak and make phone calls to our partners back home, or hide our partner's picture under a mattress. We should have the right to be ourselves like so-called straight people have a right to be themselves. That is the point.
No, I see. Makes sense. Honestly, I support it. But, would there be problems? I mean, a manly macho man having to sleep and shower with a gay man, wouldn't there be more problems with outing sexual preferences? Although, I am sure everyone knows who is gay and who isn't already. Why do you call them partners and not Boyfriends ?
"But, would there be problems? I mean, a manly macho man having to sleep and shower with a gay man, wouldn't there be more problems with outing sexual preferences?"
You make us sound like predators! LMAO!
Seriously, gay men are not attracted to every man on the planet. Furthermore, we are perfectly capable of showing self-restraint and maintaining our professionalism and integrity. And if you are worried about gays being too "soft" to serve; don't be! Some of the toughest people I have ever met, are gay. Myself included.
Listen, when I go to the gym, I see lots of NAKED, attractive men. Do I gawk at them and act inappropriately? No. In the workplace, do I randomly approach every man I am sexually attracted to? No.
The point is, gays are no different than "straight" people. So, we should have the same freedoms as everyone else. And freedom does not mean HIDING who you are - to make others more comfortable.
And to answer your question about my use of the word "partners" instead of boyfriend... I used that word to include the "partners" of gays as well as lesbians. Besides, I hate the words boyfriend and girlfriend, when it comes to adults. I'm too old to have a BOY-friend. I date MEN.
You make us sound like predators! LMAO!
No, sorry if it sounded that way. I know its not like that at all. I meant the other way around. An 18 year old kid still finding his way in the world is pretty macho and potentially homophobic...
As for being tough, no doubt about that. I had three cousins who were gay and I never knew until we were all in our 30's and we all studied martial arts together. I never had a clue and didn't care either. They hid it from me as they thought it might bother me for some reason.
I still think it would be a little awkward for a gay man and a straight man to shower and sleep together. I mean that's the traditional reason for separating Male and female facilities. To hide the naughty bits and eliminate temptations right?
Self restraint or not if I start taking showers with Jennifer Lopez and watching her soap up, I am bound to be vigorously saluting the flag flag.
I wouldn't feel comfortable to shower with a gay man. If you're gay in the military then keep it to yourself or you will most likely get in trouble.
Whether a man is attracted to me or not to know that this dude looks at men in a sexual way is very disturbing to most straight men. We don't like that at all.
"Self restraint or not if I start taking showers with Jennifer Lopez and watching her soap up, I am bound to be vigorously saluting the flag flag"
If I can control myself at the gym, in the shower, other gays and lesbians can control themselves while in service. Besides, we have been "controlling/hiding ourselves FOR YEARS.
And your statement hinting that most young people are homophobic, isn't true. Number one, you don't know most young people and two, there are a LOT of young gays and bisexuals, already in the military. Not to mention the fact that most people have gays in their families, that they actually love and care about.
I think that if gays are allowed to openly serve in the military it will strengthen it, not weaken it. Happy people are more productive people.
I can recall from about ten years ago when the media in Philadelphia made a really big deal over the first openly gay cop to graduate from the police academy and join the ranks of the Philly PD. It was not even a whole year after that when this same gay rookie cop shot himself dead with his own service weapon. I would say that this all just goes to show that gays tend to be not so stable upstairs in stressful professions such as law enforcement and military service, and the last thing we really need to do is start telling young gay guys that they can now openly serve in the military and everything will just be peachy. In case anybody doesn't realize this, military service is a whole lot more than just sharing showers and living in close quarters at times. It's also sometimes extremely high-risk and demanding situations, the times when people have to trust one another with their very lives.
Also, try to imagine there's some homosexual soldier or marine in a combat zone who became HIV positive just before deployment and nobody is aware of this, not even the homosexual soldier or marine. Then that same homosexual soldier or marine suffers a severe combat injury from a mortar or rocket attack, and his blood gets sprayed in the face or the open wounds of somebody else in his squad, or the combat medic needs to save his life by holding deep lacerations together with his own bare hands because he has no field dressings or quik-clot to apply to the wound. Does anybody think that the other troops on the ground there really will be able to concern themselves with whether or not they will be getting infected with the injured gay soldier or marine's HIV positive blood on top of everything else they have to deal with just to survive combat situations like ambushes and firefights?
Trust me, as a former soldier, having openly gay guys in your infantry squad will not make things better or easier for combat readiness sake. It will not do anything to improve morale, either. It will instead just complicate everything to satisfy the people who have no clue about what it's like to be in an infantry squad or on a fire team - people like our current POTUS and nearly every Democrat currently serving in the federal government.
"I can recall from about ten years ago when the media in Philadelphia made a really big deal over the first openly gay cop to graduate from the police academy and join the ranks of the Philly PD"
1. How do we know the gay cop really shot himself? Maybe he was murdered.
2. Statistically, gays have a very low suicide rate. Especially, those who are openly gay.
3. There are straight people with HIV/AIDS.
1. How do we know the gay cop really shot himself? Maybe he was murdered.
His partner wouldnt let him blow him and he was withdrawing so he started suckin on the gun. Crazxy ass fuirt
Gays in the Military for Obama is another push for jobs jobs jobs...Blow jobs.
Sorry fellas, no musicals, gay pride parades or lawsuits cause the sarge made you cry... in this mans army.
"1. How do we know the gay cop really shot himself? Maybe he was murdered."
Every suicide by gunshot gets checked for such a possibility and more often than not, that possibility gets ruled out. Those types of things get investigated by forensic experts that know how to tell when a murder gets made to look like a suicide. Anyway, I really doubt that a "lone wolf plot" or even a conspiracy to murder an openly gay cop would ever exist in an extremely liberal and pro-gay city such as Philadelphia. This is the same town were a group of evangelical Christians were actually arrested simply for peacefully demonstrating against a gay pride parade in the early part of this decade after all.
2. "Statistically, gays have a very low suicide rate. Especially, those who are openly gay."
I'm really in doubt that any statistics such as that were formulated strictly from openly gay people in the military and law enforcement professions. There is a world of difference between being a cop or a soldier for a living compared to occupations that many openly gay men have traditionally been in, such as hair stylist, entertainer, and fashion designer. I am also of the opinion that a lot of so-called "statistics" are nothing more than biased and leftist agenda-driven junk science anyway.
"3. There are straight people with HIV/AIDS."
Yeah, and a lot of them got their HIV/AIDS from using needles to shoot dope too, which is just one of many different immoral and/or illegal activities that no military service member or law enforcement professional would ever participate in normally, and if they ever started to, chances are their careers would be ended soon afterward because of random drug testing and zero tolerance policies for illegal drug usage.
Furthermore, the Pentagon has had a policy to immediately discharge anybody who tests as HIV positive for about the last 20 years already, but few military service members have ever been discharged for this reason. Why? It's simply because the military doesn't accept dope addicts and openly homosexual people into its ranks. If the Pentagon's policy on homosexuals changes to the point where it would fully satisfy all of the gay activists and liberals, the policy on those who test as being HIV positive would probably have to change, too. (It just would not be fair to discriminate against them, right?) Nothing good will ever come of that for a myriad of reasons, some of which I already illustrated above.
The bottom line is this: The concept of the military was devised to achieve foreign policy goals and to defend national interests. The concept of the military was not devised to conduct experiments with social interaction, to promote diversity, or to promote civil rights equality for every last special interest group in existence. Despite all of the above, a lot of liberals simply do not care about these truths. They would much rather see the military being all about equality and diversity than being all about victory and stability, and that is simply just a giant recipe for chaos and failure.
The bottom line is this: The concept of the military was devised to achieve foreign policy goals and to defend national interests. The concept of the military was not devised to conduct experiments with social interaction, to promote diversity, or to promote civil rights equality for every last special interest group in existence. Despite all of the above, a lot of liberals simply do not care about these truths. They would much rather see the military being all about equality and diversity than being all about victory and stability, and that is simply just a giant recipe for chaos and failure.
Very well said. I guess that is the problem. Fringe or special interest groups forget the purpose is not about them. It is about the purpose.
"The concept of the military was not devised to conduct experiments with social interaction, to promote diversity, or to promote civil rights equality for every last special interest group in existence"
I had no idea that equality for all American citizens was a SPECIAL interest.
"I had no idea that equality for all American citizens was a SPECIAL interest."
You obviously don't get it - promoting the desires and wishes of homosexual activists at the expense of military readiness and capability is a special interest indeed.
"You obviously don't get it - promoting the desires and wishes of homosexual activists at the expense of military readiness and capability is a special interest indeed"
Does military reject "gay" tax dollars, too?
Does military reject "gay" tax dollars, too?
Gay Tax Dollars - I have this picture of dollar bills dancing around in a pink mini skirt..........Tax Dollars are for Defense. We all pay for defense of our way of life, but do not all serve and or meet the requirements to serve.
"Tax Dollars are for Defense. We all pay for defense of our way of life"
Oh, I see! But we don't all have the right to serve in same capacity?!! I get it! Hypocrisy!
Not me, I am flat footed and my balls are too big and heavy.
We are going to crack down on violations of equal pay laws – so that women get equal pay for an equal day’s work.
This was already done in 2009, he hasnt done much for sure and needs to recycle.
"Oh, I see! But we don't all have the right to serve in same capacity?"
Yeah, sure. I think there was a even a sketch on Saturday Night Live back in the 70's about an army unit called "The Gay Brigade" or something like that.
A newly established all-gay-male and HIV positive army unit could go around on secret missions to spread AIDS in Afghanistan and Pakistan among the Taliban fighters and al Qaeda terrorists. The US Army's medical corps has recently related that a lot of the native men over there in the tribal regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan actually like to have anal sex with other men, even though they don't consider themselves to be gay, just because they don't get all lovey dovey about it.
You know, maybe everybody should be allowed to serve in the military no matter who they are or what they do.
Maybe "little people" like that actor who played Mini Me in the Austin Powers movies should be allowed in to join the military.
Maybe NAMBLA members and other "boy lovers" should should be allowed to openly serve in the military.
Maybe bestiality fetishists should should be allowed in to openly serve in the military.
Maybe deaf people and blind people should be allowed to serve in the military.
Maybe my 77-year-old grandpop should be allowed back in the army - he sort of misses it now after being out for 50 some years, plus he needs something to do with himself since my grandma passed away.
I could go on and on with this of course, since it's just totally anti-American to discriminate against anybody for any reason any more, right?
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